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Bullshit Maine Law!!!!

Postby b_mason » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:53 pm

Maine has passed and installing a exhaust law on July 12th this year. A motorcycle with a modifaication to the exhaust which makes it louder will be a $137 ticket! They want to control the noise pollution so as not to offend the fucking people that live in silent neighbor hoods.

Well that law made the front page of the local paper Waterville morning sentinel, dated 6-14-10

To rub salt in my wounds caused by these silent hill nazis, I got pulled over today for doing 90mph in a 65mph zone. granted when the officer was catching up to me I was doing 120mph which i admitted to and deniedthe 90mph where he siad I was doing it. I know I wasn't because I was behind a friggin toyota Prius! He then ran my license which I told I did have speeding tickets but have been good for the last couple of years. He comes back and tells me that he is not issuing a speeding ticket because he had no radar. I have got a speeding ticket for assumed speed two years ago! This the day after the news release the info on the noise. He did take my bikes info. As I was setting on the side of the road with him, Three harleys drive by with loud exhaust and a State trooper following them! This is an attack on our freedom(my belief), but none the less this is still AMERICA not a socialist country or state!

ok I feel a little better but still pissed
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Could be worse!

Postby TonUp » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:03 pm

I rather get a ticket than drive a Prius! LOL


That is wrong on the state. They should be taking noise reading with a decibel noise meter and have a standard set. Mostly for the really loud bikes and I mean really loud.


You were lucky with your ticket, I got the book thrown at me 6 weeks ago for doing 65 on a 50 while passing a car! 90 I could understand but 15 over to pass that is really bullshit, and the motherfucking VT state trooper plate #434 lives 1/2 from me.

Hope you feel better now!


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Re: Bullshit Maine Law!!!!

Postby mark » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:36 pm

b_mason wrote:Maine has passed and installing a exhaust law on July 12th this year. A motorcycle with a modifaication to the exhaust which makes it louder will be a $137 ticket!


This is only the beginning. The fucking straight-pipe Harley assholes have ruined it for all of us.

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Postby b_mason » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:53 pm

Well there are plenty of others who are worse than the harley riders. How about some of these cars and trucks with straight pipes. They are not going after them and also there are currents laws on the books to control this issue but the police doesn't enforce it.

Well atleast I'll know what socialism feels like before OBAMA turns the counrty over to it!!!!!!
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Postby bonnevillebilly » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:30 pm

Straight pipe Harley's are music to my ears it's those fucking loud high pitch screaming sport bikes that give me a head ache. LOL

But either way that law SUCKS!! , some people are not happy unless they have something to cry about.
Down here in Mass. every year the same fucking assholes try to pass the same law.
The MMA (Massachusetts Motorcycle Association) works very hard to shut them down.
The only way they can enforce this law is they would have to have one of those db meters.
Then they would have to go after loud lawn mowers, weed whackers and chain saws and so on.

I'm going to stop here some of these laws they come up with just piss me off.
Fuck them mother fuckers!

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Postby davidc » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:55 pm

Ahhh...a loud pipe post! Excellent!

I fucking HATE loud pipes!

Before you light the flame throwers, however, the unpleasantness of this noise seems to come from V-twin motors, whether Milwaukee tractors or Jap wannabes.

The loudest vertical twin I have ever heard sounds NOTHING like a V; more mellow, less ear shattering.

But another guy's freedom ought to end at my nose - or ear, whichever comes first.
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Postby amrehm » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:44 pm

Loud pipes are bad for everyone no matter what vehicle they are on. I know the AMA is watching legislation in the states & challenging the ones that single out motorcycles. In most cases, they are getting the laws modified to include all motor vehicles & set a maximum decibel reading.

If the Maine law singles out motorcycles, contact the AMA.

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Postby drlapo » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:43 am

and get those fucking hip hop kids with the 110db car stereos
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Postby mark » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:26 am

I agree that the sportbikes with loud race pipes are obnoxious as hell -- but they're a lot fewer in number than loud Harleys. And it seems like the V-Twin noise carries further.

Agreed fully that any noise laws should apply equally to loud cars/trucks, stereos, etc.

The real danger with these loud-exhaust laws is that it will become impossible to make any changes to the exhaust system whatsoever. NYC already took it to extremes and was ticketing any bike (even parked ones) that didn't have the EPA stamp on it -- a real bitch, since some completely stock bikes don't have the stamp in a location that's immediately visible to a cop who feels like writing a ticket.

If states start enforcing existing noise regulations, it might spur the aftermarket industry to develop more performance exhausts that are EPA/DOT-approved, which wouldn't be such a bad thing. But if states begin making it illegal to make any modifications at all to the stock exhaust system, what the hell are we supposed to do when a muffler rots out? Or gets damaged in a crash? Are we supposed to shell out $700 for an OEM Bonneville exhaust (for example) when an aftermarket one performs better, is more durable, and costs less? What if the bike in question is older and OEM silencers are no longer available?

Instead of writing asinine new legislation, states should just enforce the laws they already have on the books.

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Postby ricster65 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:59 pm

this is still AMERICA not a socialist country or state!

UMMM Obama is making it the above (sociialist country) everyone wanted CHANGE, Welcome to it.
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Re: Bullshit Maine Law!!!!

Postby Shytown » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:28 pm

mark wrote:
b_mason wrote:Maine has passed and installing a exhaust law on July 12th this year. A motorcycle with a modifaication to the exhaust which makes it louder will be a $137 ticket!


This is only the beginning. The fucking straight-pipe Harley assholes have ruined it for all of us.

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The AMA said it best years ago,,,, Loud pipes risk rights,,, well put that in your pipe and smoke it, I personally will not ride with loud bikes, or prefer to stay in front of them as it does offend me, and those laws are more than just where your at, but it really depends on the Trooper/sheriff/barney fife, most wont mess with you, unless your being offensive, if your in a quiet neihborhood cruising around in second or first gear gunning it, he may ticket you, if you respect the area your around, i would say 99 times out of 100 you'd be ok. just my .02
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Postby b_mason » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:43 pm

Shytown said something that is so true but sadly doesn't ring thru everyones head, motorcycle, car, truck, boat, plane, owners, drivers, riders, pilots. Look at how many race tracks require some sort of muffler system to limit the noise of the big and powerful engines. We should respect the rights of the citizens when we ride thru their blocks and homes. However one enjoys a bike should be left up to that person as long as it is within the current laws.

We can bitch about this all we want but lets turn Our energy towards the ones that don't listen to or respect or choices. The more I think about this and read the posts of the ones here, I'm seeing that noise is an issue not modifications. Thanks you for chimming in on this. I'm still waiting for the lawyers to get ahold of this. I hope the next Maine Governer sees the trival laws the current is letting enter the books and shuts the system down!
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Postby Bucky » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:34 am

In May of '09 the SAE introduced a common sense method to test motorcycle sound. This method allows aftermarket pipes. With any luck, the new methods will get adopted by many states, and do away with the Neanderthal method of no DOT stamp = fail.

http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=995
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Postby drlapo » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:48 pm

same thing with gun laws
some nut shoots someone and the liberals try to punish everyone
the Brits have the ASBO laws to deal with this shit
anti social behavoir ordinances: if you act like an asshole you get a ticket
outlaw stupid!
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Postby b_mason » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:54 pm

Bucky wrote:In May of '09 the SAE introduced a common sense method to test motorcycle sound. This method allows aftermarket pipes. With any luck, the new methods will get adopted by many states, and do away with the Neanderthal method of no DOT stamp = fail.

http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=995


Ok guys check this out.....I emailed my local rep the link provided by bucky,Thanks bucky, We talked for about 10minutes about a standard db measurement to which he finally ask, well how much are the meters and who is going to pay for them. I was pissed by the questions thinking he was blowing me off, without a kiss even. He then continued to say that Maine has current laws which are not being inforced on the books that pertain to un-muffled or un-baffled mufflers aka straight pipes or hollow mufflers on the books. He is pushing that with those on the comitte with him. So no matter how you feel about loud or quiet mufflers, please call your reps and let them know we are watching them, they can't push this bullshit down our throats!!
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